ΣΧΟΛΙΟ ΙΣΤΟΛΟΓΙΟΥ :Η Σύρτη είναι πολύ σημαντική για να την αφήσουν να πέσει στα χέρια των Τούρκων. Αλλά για να λέμε τα πράγματα με το όνομα τους...δεν θα υπήρχε η Τουρκία στην Λιβύη, αν οι Γάλλοι δεν άφηναν το ΝΑΤΟ να καταστρέψει την Λιβύη και να την παραδώσει στο ISIS...ενώ ταυτόχρονα η Δύση λεηλατούσε το πετρέλαιο της Λιβύης. Απο την άλλοι οι Τούρκοι είναι κλέφτες και πρέπει να ξηλωθούν απο την Λιβύη , όπως και απο την Συρία, την Κύπρο και όπου άλλου έχουν εισβάλλει. Η οικονομική αναταραχή της Τουρκίας επιβάλλει πρόωρες δημοσκοπήσεις στον Ερντογάν καθώς η οικονομία παρασύρεται προς τα κάτω. Η οικονομική πίεση που δέχεται τώρα ο Ερντογάν θα επιδεινωθεί ακόμα περισσότερο και λόγο του κόστους της εισβολής στην Λιβύη.
Στην Λιβύη ΔΕΝ πρόκειται να κερδίσει κανείς, διότι είναι μια κατάσταση LOSE-LOSE..και όπως έχουμε ξαναπεί , οι Αιγύπτιοι είναι δειλοί για να κάνουν το παραμικρό....οι μόνοι που μπορούν να γυρίσουν το παιχνίδι είναι οι Ρώσσοι. Θα δούμε τι θα πράξουν το επόμενο διάστημα.
Εμάς σαν Ευρώπη θα έπρεπε να μας ανησυχεί το γεγονός ότι 2000 μαχητές από την Λιβύη έχουν ήδη φτάσει στην Ευρώπη. Σύμφωνα με την Ύπατη Αρμοστεία των Ηνωμένων Εθνών για τους Πρόσφυγες, παρατηρείται ταχεία αύξηση των νέων ανδρών "προσφύγων" από τη Βόρεια Αφρική τους τελευταίους μήνες. Αυτό είναι μόνο η αρχή...Η ΜΑΧΗ ΘΑ ΜΕΤΑΦΕΡΘΕΙ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΥΡΩΠΗ ΑΝ ΤΟ ΑΦΗΣΟΥΜΕ ΝΑ ΣΥΝΕΧΙΣΤΕΙ ΑΥΤΟ. Το κάρμα είναι μεγάλη υπόθεση...τόσο η Γαλλία , όσο και η Βρεταννία βοήθησαν να βομβαριστούν χώρες όπως η Συρία και και η Λιβύη...τώρα να μην διαμαρτυρηθούν αν ο πόλεμος έρθει μέσα στο δικό τους σπίτι.
France, Russia seen forging defacto alliance in Libya.
Στην Λιβύη ΔΕΝ πρόκειται να κερδίσει κανείς, διότι είναι μια κατάσταση LOSE-LOSE..και όπως έχουμε ξαναπεί , οι Αιγύπτιοι είναι δειλοί για να κάνουν το παραμικρό....οι μόνοι που μπορούν να γυρίσουν το παιχνίδι είναι οι Ρώσσοι. Θα δούμε τι θα πράξουν το επόμενο διάστημα.
Εμάς σαν Ευρώπη θα έπρεπε να μας ανησυχεί το γεγονός ότι 2000 μαχητές από την Λιβύη έχουν ήδη φτάσει στην Ευρώπη. Σύμφωνα με την Ύπατη Αρμοστεία των Ηνωμένων Εθνών για τους Πρόσφυγες, παρατηρείται ταχεία αύξηση των νέων ανδρών "προσφύγων" από τη Βόρεια Αφρική τους τελευταίους μήνες. Αυτό είναι μόνο η αρχή...Η ΜΑΧΗ ΘΑ ΜΕΤΑΦΕΡΘΕΙ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΥΡΩΠΗ ΑΝ ΤΟ ΑΦΗΣΟΥΜΕ ΝΑ ΣΥΝΕΧΙΣΤΕΙ ΑΥΤΟ. Το κάρμα είναι μεγάλη υπόθεση...τόσο η Γαλλία , όσο και η Βρεταννία βοήθησαν να βομβαριστούν χώρες όπως η Συρία και και η Λιβύη...τώρα να μην διαμαρτυρηθούν αν ο πόλεμος έρθει μέσα στο δικό τους σπίτι.
TUNIS – A Libyan political source
said that a Russian-French alliance is being formed in Libya, a move
that seems to have disrupted Ankara's plan for an agreement with Moscow
that would enable it to take control of Sirte.
“It seems that France has started to line up with Russia against Turkey, and in truth, it is against the United States,” the source told The Arab Weekly
The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, explained that “the Russians and the French view Sirte with the same importance; both want the port and the base of Al-Qardabiya.”
Observers made a link between the postponement of a planned official visit to Turkey by Russian Defence Minister Sergey Shoygo and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and a statement issued by the French presidency on Sunday strongly criticising Turkey's intervention in Libya. The timing of both developments may indicate that there was last minute coordination between Moscow and Paris.
The French statement limited itself to attacking the Turkish intervention, ignoring the campaign led by the US State Department to inflate Russia's role in Libya.
France, which has been intensifying for months its criticism of Turkish regional ambitions, said that Turkey was pursuing “an even more aggressive and insistent stance (in Libya), with seven Turkish ships deployed off the Libyan coast and violations of the arms embargo.”
“The Turks are behaving in an unacceptable manner and are exploiting NATO. France cannot just stand by," added the French presidency.
A French presidency official said on Monday that France wants to hold talks with NATO members to discuss Turkey's increasingly “aggressive” and “unacceptable” role, highlighting the increased tension between Ankara and Paris.
France and Russia support the Libyan National Army (LNA) in its war against terrorist groups and armed militias, while Turkey supports the Islamist-dominated Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli.
On Monday, Reuters quoted an unidentified Turkish official as saying, “Russia and Turkey postponed their talks on defusing the fighting in Libya because of a dispute regarding the Ankara-backed Tripoli government 's bid to regain control of the main coastal city of Sirte from the Russian-backed army.”
The Turkish official said that talks are continuing through back channels at the level of experts from both countries.
“The (postponed) meetings were supposed to lead to (concrete) results, but it was not possible to reach that stage. Both countries do not see to eye on some issues,” the official added.
Despite the importance of the city of Sirte to Russia, Turkey was hoping to conclude a deal with Russia similar to the one that led to the withdrawal from west Tripoli, hence allowing Turkey to gain control of this coastal city, which has special importance to the United States. Turkey’s intervention in Libya was implicitly blessed by the United States.
In Turkey's calculations, Russia's relinquishing Sirte does not seem impossible, since Ankara can offer Moscow the airbase of al-Jufra, described as the most important base in Libya, while keeping the base of al-Qardabiya to itself. These calculations, however, seem to have not taken into consideration French interest in the city, particularly its port that Paris was planning to make its nearest gate to Africa.
Russia is aware that the recent French escalation, which was preceded by French Rafale fighters flying over the city, would spoil any deal with Turkey that might take place.
The Rafale overflights carried a message to Moscow, namely that if France had agreed to force the LNA to withdraw from the western region, it was because such a withdrawal was in line with the outcomes of the Berlin conference. France, however, is not willing to tolerate the surrender of Sirte and would not hesitate to move to counter any attack on LNA forces in the city.
Located approximately halfway between Tripoli, which is under the GNA’s control, and Benghazi, controlled by the LNA, Sirte is the closest city to the main oil and gas terminals in Libya.
This is also why Sirte has special importance to the United States, which had assisted the Misrata militia to liberate the city from the clutches of ISIS in 2016.
At the time, it was reported that the United States refused to allow the LNA, under the command of Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, to take part in the liberation of Sirte, even though the LNA had prepared to take part in the battle.
With the Misrata militias in control of Sirte, the city's residents started to complain of repeated attacks perpetrated against the city by the militias and of the GNA’s systematic and deliberate marginalisation of the city, since Sirte is the birthplace of the late Colonel Muammar Qaddafi and most of its residents hail from the Qaddafi and Farjan tribes. Haftar belongs to the Farjan tribe.
In early January, LNA forces took advantage of the withdrawal of most of the Misrata militia from Sirte to go fight on the battle fronts in south Tripoli and stormed the city in a lightning operation that lasted just hours. Sirte has been under LNA control ever since.
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“It seems that France has started to line up with Russia against Turkey, and in truth, it is against the United States,” the source told The Arab Weekly
The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, explained that “the Russians and the French view Sirte with the same importance; both want the port and the base of Al-Qardabiya.”
Observers made a link between the postponement of a planned official visit to Turkey by Russian Defence Minister Sergey Shoygo and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and a statement issued by the French presidency on Sunday strongly criticising Turkey's intervention in Libya. The timing of both developments may indicate that there was last minute coordination between Moscow and Paris.
The French statement limited itself to attacking the Turkish intervention, ignoring the campaign led by the US State Department to inflate Russia's role in Libya.
France, which has been intensifying for months its criticism of Turkish regional ambitions, said that Turkey was pursuing “an even more aggressive and insistent stance (in Libya), with seven Turkish ships deployed off the Libyan coast and violations of the arms embargo.”
“The Turks are behaving in an unacceptable manner and are exploiting NATO. France cannot just stand by," added the French presidency.
A French presidency official said on Monday that France wants to hold talks with NATO members to discuss Turkey's increasingly “aggressive” and “unacceptable” role, highlighting the increased tension between Ankara and Paris.
France and Russia support the Libyan National Army (LNA) in its war against terrorist groups and armed militias, while Turkey supports the Islamist-dominated Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli.
On Monday, Reuters quoted an unidentified Turkish official as saying, “Russia and Turkey postponed their talks on defusing the fighting in Libya because of a dispute regarding the Ankara-backed Tripoli government 's bid to regain control of the main coastal city of Sirte from the Russian-backed army.”
The Turkish official said that talks are continuing through back channels at the level of experts from both countries.
“The (postponed) meetings were supposed to lead to (concrete) results, but it was not possible to reach that stage. Both countries do not see to eye on some issues,” the official added.
Despite the importance of the city of Sirte to Russia, Turkey was hoping to conclude a deal with Russia similar to the one that led to the withdrawal from west Tripoli, hence allowing Turkey to gain control of this coastal city, which has special importance to the United States. Turkey’s intervention in Libya was implicitly blessed by the United States.
In Turkey's calculations, Russia's relinquishing Sirte does not seem impossible, since Ankara can offer Moscow the airbase of al-Jufra, described as the most important base in Libya, while keeping the base of al-Qardabiya to itself. These calculations, however, seem to have not taken into consideration French interest in the city, particularly its port that Paris was planning to make its nearest gate to Africa.
Russia is aware that the recent French escalation, which was preceded by French Rafale fighters flying over the city, would spoil any deal with Turkey that might take place.
The Rafale overflights carried a message to Moscow, namely that if France had agreed to force the LNA to withdraw from the western region, it was because such a withdrawal was in line with the outcomes of the Berlin conference. France, however, is not willing to tolerate the surrender of Sirte and would not hesitate to move to counter any attack on LNA forces in the city.
Located approximately halfway between Tripoli, which is under the GNA’s control, and Benghazi, controlled by the LNA, Sirte is the closest city to the main oil and gas terminals in Libya.
This is also why Sirte has special importance to the United States, which had assisted the Misrata militia to liberate the city from the clutches of ISIS in 2016.
At the time, it was reported that the United States refused to allow the LNA, under the command of Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, to take part in the liberation of Sirte, even though the LNA had prepared to take part in the battle.
With the Misrata militias in control of Sirte, the city's residents started to complain of repeated attacks perpetrated against the city by the militias and of the GNA’s systematic and deliberate marginalisation of the city, since Sirte is the birthplace of the late Colonel Muammar Qaddafi and most of its residents hail from the Qaddafi and Farjan tribes. Haftar belongs to the Farjan tribe.
In early January, LNA forces took advantage of the withdrawal of most of the Misrata militia from Sirte to go fight on the battle fronts in south Tripoli and stormed the city in a lightning operation that lasted just hours. Sirte has been under LNA control ever since.
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